Beginner

topic posted Sun, April 13, 2008 - 7:45 PM by  Judia
Where do you start? Where is a good starting point of you're starting out in this?

Do you keep records? Like information on your spells and such?
posted by:
Judia
San Diego
  • Re: Beginner

    Sun, April 13, 2008 - 7:59 PM
    Yes, a magick journal is highly recommened tool, to keep yourself aware of what works for you.

    Other recommendations are just keeping a daily journal, where you write three pages a day (at least) every day, just to work with your thoughts.

    Many people recommend a divination tool (tarot, runes, I ching) as a way of learning some styles.

    Ask alot of questions. Read ALOT of books. Trust your instincts. enchant, enchant, enchant. A believe helpful to me is that magic is like a muscle. It gets stronger the more you exercise it.
    • Re: Beginner

      Sun, April 13, 2008 - 8:02 PM
      Where do I BEGIN, though?
      • Re: Beginner

        Sun, April 13, 2008 - 8:14 PM
        why dont you start with a culture(s) your interested in.
        asian, african, european,jewish,native american etc...
        find out what their magickal pratices are and try them out.
        i also recommend liber MMM in pete carrols book liber null and psychonauts.

        i personally reccomened my favorite paradighms-toltec and norse
        • Re: Beginner

          Sun, April 13, 2008 - 8:18 PM
          Alright.

          Can you create your own? I've been reading up on chaos majik. It's being tossed in the the luciferian path and such. I've been digging through websites. =) It's very interesting to read.

          What I'm wondering is: Do you use names? Symbols that represent you?

          Thanks for replying, by the way. Is this just a do-it-and-make-it-yourself majik?
      • Re: Beginner

        Sun, April 13, 2008 - 8:16 PM
        I found that I didn't really "get" magick until I joined a mystery school. First-hand instruction can really help you establish a foundation for magick that you don't really get so much from books. Now that I have that foundation, I'm looking to books and understanding them better.
        • Re: Beginner

          Sun, April 13, 2008 - 8:20 PM
          I've been into majik for a while now, wandering around the different paths and such. I've never had the patience for them, because there was so MUCH of it!!!! I have ADHD, and I needed something just as wild as my mind, I guess. I looked into chaos majik because of how free it is. There's no structure--but a freedom that other systems don't grant. I find it interesting and refreshing.
          • Re: Beginner

            Mon, April 14, 2008 - 9:47 AM
            The thing with chaos magick or majik, or woifrdjhwjhn (pronounced meghyux) is that in terms of actualy "doing" you can do anything. It is very fluid. Philosophical, its much more stable. Using what I remember reading as the "Metaparadigm" of chaos magic, you can work any other system, so long as you believe whole heartedly in what you are doing at the moment and how you are doing it.

            As for where to begin, with your journal, just start, tomorrow, Sunday, with the full moon, whenever, just start. I personally find the daily journal is best. Start with writing down WHATEVER is in your head every day for 15 - 30 minutes, with a really simple journal (Like a composition book that you can get at just about any office or school supply store) and just fill it with three pages. If you can't think of anything write, I can't think of anything" for three pages. If you find an interesting leaf, pick it up, put it in there. If you feel you need to write something down, put it in there. If you get an awesome idea for a ritual, an insight about divination, filled with the Holy Spirit, put it in there. Let the pages catch all the flip and change of your mind, to whatever it goes. Just put it in the journal. That is where I would say to start.
  • Re: Beginner

    Mon, April 14, 2008 - 7:00 PM
    I dislike keeping records. As what I do tends to change with the winds and the tide, what I did years before becomes somewhat irrelevant to me and it is never a good idea to leave evidence for the prosecutor.
    • Re: Beginner

      Tue, April 15, 2008 - 1:15 AM
      As you are undoubtedly aware, the point of keeping records is to afford an anchor so that one does not lose one's mind. While you may not need this, most people do.

      Lets face facts. Most people are compoundably stupid, weak, and militantly ignorant. Simply discovering a magic isn't going to change the culture. Have discovered magic in no way means that you are somehow special--that thousands of years of culture have not affected you. Unless you are from a magician family, but, then you would not be on this board... heh

      I would recommend the keeping of a magical journal to anyone who is a beginner. If they don't like it, they can dispense with it later at their own risk.

      Also, I might add that your attitude it rather paranoid. What do they get if they kill me? Its just me. No organization crumbles. Nothing happens. Its just me. Let them read my diary and jerk off, as they are reading this even now.
      • Re: Beginner

        Tue, April 15, 2008 - 9:06 AM
        lol

        "Most people are compoundably stupid, weak, and militantly ignorant. "

        That similar to my personal philsophy, although the words I use are lazy, ignorant and selfish. Even myself. which I work constantly at not to be. woo!!!
  • Re: Beginner

    Thu, May 15, 2008 - 2:55 AM
    I would highly recommend you start by mastering some sort of banishing ritual. If you learn a simple one and do it every day for a year, you will thank yourself for the rest of your life.

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