Kia can be invoked but it can never be conceptualised beyond anything but a pregnant void...to paraphrase Pete.

There's an invokation of Kia (in enochian) as part of the Mass of Chaos Choronzon (C)....one of my favorite rites from the old days...

Meka

"Josh, could you elaborate a bit on the tension between Kia and Chaos?"

Sure, the way I look at it is something along the following lines: (I say "along the following lines" because my own thoughts on the matter are still kind of up in the air) - chaos, as understood in terms of chaos magick means much more than the common newsman's understanding of it - i.e. destructive action and/or confusion. But you all already knew that. Indeed, it's beyond most currently understood definitions of the term and that's how it should be. Any given moment of awareness is surrounded by, preceded by, followed by and underlied by a state of total potentiality. That, for lack of a better word, would be termed "chaos". Though what normally arises is what is expected, that which is unexpected may also arise. In fact, it's the unexpected which makes life worth it really...no matter how unwelcome it can sometimes be.

Kia, the differentiated individual conceptualization of chaos on the level of each and everyone's consciousness exists in a state of perpetual motion. The tension that I spoke of naturally arises, a friction that gives form (or the illusion of form) to what is subsequently perceived and classified as "real". I'm not really certain the mechanics which give rise to the tension in question, I usually focus on the practical - thus, my concern lies in the byproduct of the tension, not in it's origin.

Ultimately it can be posited that there is no difference between chaos and kia, - i.e. all that seperates us, even on the level of fundamental particles or preternatural chaos is illusion. facets of a diamond deluded into thinking we each are a seperate thing. <shrug>

However, that illusion is necessary in order to keep things in a constant state of flux, the "play of kia" - the endless variation arising from billions of individual consciousnesses meeting in unnumbered combinations (and "forms" of interaction).

As a side note, while Carroll states that one can't really invoke/evoke Kia (or chaos for that matter) as anything more than a pregnant void there is a suggested methodology right in his own book for doing just that - it can be found in the instructions for creating a chaosphere. To get at something which lies beyond definition one takes a route of paradox and extreme contradictions. - i.e. one sets up a state of extreme mental attenuation...which creates tension.

In the case of Kia...it's a matter of rapidly diving into radically different and paradoxal states of consciousness and experience.